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That represents a steep drop from 57 percent who were married in Latter-day Saints, or Mormons, are strong proponents of healthy marriages. Theirs, too, are marked by casualties of divorce, but less so than those of the world, and less so than all of those who co-habit and then marry. Co-habitors who marry actually increase their likelihood of divorce rather than reduce it. Not a surprise.
Those who were faithful in all things there received greater blessings here, and those who were not faithful received less. Young in a meeting held December 25, in Salt Lake City, said that Joseph Smith had declared that the Negroes were not neutral in heaven, for all the spirits took sides, but the posterity of Cain are black because he Cain committed murder.
It cannot be looked upon as just that they should be deprived of the power of the Priesthood without it being a punishment for some act, or acts, performed before they were born.
Spencer W. Kimball, 12th President of the Church. For years they have been growing delightsome The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservationThere was the doctor in a Utah city who for two years had had an Indian boy in his home who stated that he was some shades lighter than the younger brother just coming into the program from the reservation. These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.
Kimball; The Improvement Era, Dec. To go against this commandment of God would be in sin. Those who willfully sin with their eyes open to this wrong will not be surprised to find that they will be separated from the presence of God in the world to come.
This is spiritual death. It does not matter if they are one-sixth Negro or one-hundred and sixth, the curse of no Priesthood is the same. If an individual who is entitled to the Priesthood marries a Negro, the Lord has decreed that only spirits who are not eligible for the Priesthood will come to that marriage as children.
It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent, and then, of course, they have been persuaded by some of the arguments that have been put forth. We who teach in the Church certainly must have our feet on the ground and not to be led astray by the philosophies of men on this subject. He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat.
From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage. That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have.
Was segregation a wrong principle? When the Lord chose the nations to which the spirits were to come, determining that some would be Japanese and some would be Chinese and some Negroes and some Americans, He engaged in an act of segregation. When He cursed the descendants of Cain as to the Priesthood, He engaged in segregation. Was it some man, or was it God?
And when He placed them there, He segregated them. At least in the cases of the Lamanites and the Negro we have the definite word of the Lord Himself that he placed a dark skin upon them as a curse - as a punishment and as a sign to all others. He forbade intermarriage with them under threat of extension of the curse. And He certainly segregated the descendants of Cain when He cursed the Negro as to the Priesthood, and drew an absolute line.
You may even say He dropped an Iron curtain there. We are willing that the Negro have the highest education. I would be willing to let every Negro drive a Cadillac if they could afford it.
I would be willing that they have all the advantages they can get out of life in the world. But let them enjoy these things among themselves. I think the Lord segregated the Negro and who is man to change that segregation? This Negro, who, in the pre-existence lived the type of life which justified the Lord in sending him to the earth in their lineage of Cain with a black skin, and possibly being born in darkest Africa-if that Negro is willing when he hears the gospel to accept it, he may have many of the blessings of the gospel.
In spite of all he did in the pre-existent life, the Lord is willing, if the Negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost.
If that Negro is faithful all his days, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory.
Richards spoken in conference. He has been given a black skin. But that is as nothing compared with that greater handicap that he is not permitted to receive the Priesthood and the ordinances of the temple, necessary to prepare men and women to enter into and enjoy a fulness of glory in the celestial kingdom.
What is the reason for this condition, we ask, and I find it to my satisfaction to think that as spirit children of our Eternal Father they were not valiant in the fight. Neither could they have been a part of those who rebelled and were cast down, for the latter had not the privilege of tabernacling in the flesh. Somewhere along the line were these spirits, indifferent perhaps, and possibly neutral in the war. We have no definite knowledge concerning this. But I learn this lesson from it, brethren and sisters, and I believe we all should, that it does not pay in religious matters, matters that pertain to our eternal salvation, to be indifferent, neutral, or lukewarm.
Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods. I marvel at the presumptive arrogance it must take for someone to knock on doors and tell another intelligent I hope person that their creed or beliefs is better than the ones they hold. As someone who determined early in life that all super natural belief was impossible to know and wishful thinking, I find all religions disappointing to say the least. It seems like so much silliness. Angels, gold tablets you lose, magic underwear, you must admit it is far-fetched.
Add to that the fact that Smith was convicted of fraud and LDS looks like an epidemic of contagious insanity. Where is the garden of Eden?
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Adam-ondi-adman is in Missouri Were he gathered his children and such. I remember watching a news story on television, the facts of which I was personally familiar with, since it occurred in my neighborhood.
I was amazed at how such a simple, straightforward story could be so twisted. I assume it was misrepresented for the purpose of increasing the interest of the viewers.
The same thing has happened here. This article was obviously written to shock, rather than reveal truth. Do Mormons have some weird beliefs? Do other Christians have some weird beliefs? No education necessary, just simple unquestioning faith. All the rest is just religious artifice used by immoral men mostly to control others. I have a very deep understanding of Christianity, as a former believer, and a very shallow understanding of Hinduism, yet both seem utterly crazy to me.
One has to become like a child in almost any Xian religious belief. Becoming a child does not mean having simple unquestioning faith.
Becoming a child involves increasingly becoming more like the savior. It means having a faith that is tempered with experience and that continually looks forward and upward.
Being child like to me means being optimistic about the future and hopeful. It also involves recognizing my relationship with God which is a father-son relationship. Children have very little or no experience, so they must rely on the adults around them to teach them the reality of life, how to think critically, and how to separate fact from fiction.
The dogma attributed to some guy named Jesus that one must become as a child to enter heaven, can only be understood as a requirement not to question or doubt the dogma, just accept it the same way a child accepts that Santa is real. The Book of Mormon just makes up things or copies things, just like the Bible. There is a similar scripture in the Bible to the one you quote, which says that the carnal mind is at enmity with God KJV. Knowledge, learning, questioning, doubting are all bad things according to the Bible.
How many children raised in the Mormon faith are allowed to really doubt and question everything they are taught by their parents, teachers and elders? I suspect that most, as in many other denominations, dare not question the dogma, which is how all religions perpetuate themselves.
Actually we very greatly believe in education. And yes we are told to become as a child, because children are meek, submissive, and lowly in heart. Although our minds and our bodies are constantly growing until we can become like unto a child who is a lover of all people then the Lord may judge us differently. By different I mean that we may not enter the highest degree of the Kingdom Of God because we did not become as a child.
You will then know for yourselves and not for another. And if you truly do have and understanding of Christianity then you will know that the LDS religion believes in Jesus Christ as the Son of God and that is what our church is based on.
As a Mormon, I cannot speak for early leaders whose comments were wrong. But as an honest person I will recognize something completely proven. I am disappointed that while the church does so many good things that are never mentioned that we seem to be dishonest about the past. Scared too death of it actually.
I do not believe our Lord ever covered up anything, even when it costs him followers. Thatquite frankly is what troubles me so much. Jesus never had to be forced to tell the truth. Even if and it did killed Him. To the learned, highly educated leaders of our church this member of no standing counsels Just tell the truth, the WHOLE truth and nothing but the truth.
There is no such thing as lying for The Lord. This I do know in the name of Jesus Christ. They all were teaching that Adam is God doctrine back then not just Brigham Young. Everything said in this article can be said of all of the Christian religions and non Christian religions. This article was written by an Evangelical. That should be a red flag right there.
The universe scares them because they do not undrstand it. Not everything has answers. There are many shades of grey in the world. That is like saying the Pope controlled the White House when Pres. Kennedy was in office. As a former Mormon you sound like you have a huge axe to grind. Every time a new U. President, several times during that U. So I guess Pres. Obama calls up all these religious leaders every morning to have prayer and then decides who to follow for the day!
Actually, the body of this article was written by a retired professor of religion who is Presbyterian ordained and who taught primarily at a Jesuit college.
You are right on with your conclusion. I am an ex-Mormon that was brainwashed. I am a Christian now and very happy! I am a professor of 33 years and a devout Mormon. I am astonished at the lack of truth on this web site the lack of current scientific knowledge is most concerning, the apparent lack of willingness on the part of the webmaster to include information that refutes the sincere or pathological claims of some contributors is propagandistic.
To address a few points: The Early Americas were, at the time of Joseph Smith, thought to have been verdant, unpopulated areas with no understanding among historians and anthropologists as to the number and variety of populations that had arrived in South America. It was beyond the understanding of the science of the time.
Now that has changed. He said there were many people long before science believed this to be the case. Now it is understood. Argue what you want he saw it long before the science of the day and it has come to pass.
I call him out as a liar!!! In truth, I am the same in reverse. That is way I recognize his methods. I am for the for Mormons, he is against. Are we both mentally ill? But he is not willing to admit the possibility and thus the objectivity of science is gone. This web site should not host the ravings of the mentally ill. That does not advance the discussion.
That contributor needs help. Go get it. That is the kind of prejudice and bigotry that has driven the uneducated masses of Islam to radical terrorism. Take a Prozac. The so called Mormon apologizing for the past. If you were LDS you should get a spine.
If now, which is the case in researching the cookies, you are a liar and a hypocrite. And for all the contributors criticizing the Book of Mormon, the psychological basis of your criticism is transparent. Normally a therapist would try to make the patient feel better before suggesting change but in this case, the basis for the comments is justification of beliefs that are unstable within your own minds and rip on others to sure up your own shaky and unstable beliefs.
For a professor and neuropsychologist you sure have poor grammar and communication skills, as well as poor critical thinking and reasoning skills. You have not made even one convincing argument with that religious rant. Emily, I merely responded in kind. It is filled with rudeness towards other commenters here, calling them liars, unstable, mentally ill. Well, I only see they are only a F away from each other.
Nevertheless it will probably be futile because of the hardness of the prejudice out there. So, instead, I love each and every one of you.
That pretty much sums up fundamentalists, whose beliefs are particularly dangerous to women and children. Bulwer, The LDS church does not in any way lead to members having homicidal tendencies towards others of other beliefs. As scriptures teach biblical and LDS we are to love one another regardless of their actions and beliefs. All this hate towards the church is hurtful and quite mean merely for the reason of trying to attack a specific group of people.
The members of the LDS church strive to be just like Christ as do members of other churches as well. When the gospel principles are studied one would come to realize that the church teaches very good principles that everyone can benefit from. Of course we will never be perfect as Christ was when He was here but thats what we strive for each and every day to be the best that we can be.
Also, Christianity is not being persecuted even a microscopic bit in Europe or the Americas. The issue that drove me out of Mormonism was the Book of Abraham.
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The papyri that Smith used to produce the book were found in in a Museum in New York. They were translated by Egyptologists and found to have nothing to do with Abraham and were Egyption funerary documents. But I am actually grateful when people point out typos and other errors.
I am angry with the scientific comunity for propagating that Native Americans are the Decendants of Mongols.
This is a known anthropological fact. The mongolid people were in central to west Europe at that time. Next, the techonology in the Americas suggests that The people more likely migrated over from the far east of Europe.
See arrow heads, and battle axes all this technology predates to east europe, and was never used by the mongoloid people. Next, during the age of Kahn, there was a heavy slave influx of Jewish people into the Mongol population.
This was known when the genetic studies were made, and a lot of data was tossed. In my opinion, the conclusions are completely invalid. And, even today, you can find a large amount of Jewish markers in Mongol decendants.
Hence, if you are trying to say that this is proof against the Mormonism, you are blowing smoke up someones ass trying to prove a point.
The truth is, that there were multipule migrations to the americas. There is proof positive that early in the Xin dynasty Xin now common chineese had several boats that may have left large settlements in the americas. Remains have been found to confirm this. There is proof positive that there were decendants that crossed the atlantic bridge. This is easily seen in the common technologies. The people that inhabited the north russian area at the time of the pacific bridge were most likely pre-siberinic white, and not likely did not contribute much.
But, the Eskimo people do have a strong coorilation to Mongolid people Including the Jewish genitic markers. And, valid research shows that they did not migrate into the northlands until much later.
Native Americans in the east have been shown to have later European markers as well this data also was tossed from the all Native Americans are Mongols postulateand this is evident as it is known that Vikings many have had several settlements in North America. My big problem is that people are trying to come up with a simple migration plan for mankind. But, the truth is, man did not migrate in simple paths.
Available scientific evidence indicates that modern humans emerged from Africa overyears ago, yet did not arrive in the Americas until less than 20, years ago. I was born to Mormon parents in Payson Utah, I know this to be true. Resurrected Jesus hanging out with the lost tribes in America? What a crazy crock of crap!
Not that any other religion is much better. Ahh, Jake, science has shown that the native Americans are descended from Asians, who in turn are descended from Africans, as are Europeans, Arabs, etc. The only European blood in them is post-contact and they all came from the far east of Russia, China, Mongolia, etc.
And Mongols were never in Eastern Europe; they were in Eastern Asia, which is where all the migrations came from. Disgustingly inaccurate. For those of you who actually want to know what the Mormons believe, stop a smissionary on street or invite them in for 30 minutes when they knock on your door.
Or ask a friend or neighbor. Hi Chris - I hear you and some others saying that this article is inaccurate. You will always find someone to support your claim, either way.
I am a returned missionary too.
Worth more th an my M. You do not have any room to speak on the legitimacy of a religion being a catholic. You people are way more twisted than the Mormons. Absolutely disgusting. Not to mention the molestations that happen, on what seems like a daily basis, by your priests or whatever you call them. Religion is the biggest hoax mankind has ever come up with. Were you trying to reply to another commenter? Thed LDS discourages members from reading historical data from early Church leaders because it does show that they were often at odds with what is taught today.
Take the Adam is God doctrine believed by most of the early prophets, apostles and presidents. Brigham Young stated he got this teaching from Joseph Smith. Apostle Heber C. Cannon ,Eliza R. Snow -plural wife of Joseph Smith, Jr. It clearly states that Adam was the god that they were worshipping. It was also taught that Adam came to earthhad physical sex with Mary and begat Jesus.
These are historical LDS documents. Why do so many people worry about other religions, when they should be spending time building their own faith? How about spending time telling me about your belief and why I should believe like you do instead of telling me how wrong other people are! The Bible you profess to believe in never explains that you should try to tear other people down, but to preach His Word.
You have a funny way of doing this. I was raised Pentecostal. I met then my girlfriend. Also, at least everyone was together, unlike every other church who had one congregation for Caucasians and a different one for every other race. That is much more racist. I am roman-catholic priest and teologist at the local university.
I will not speak about their book but since I know many of them and have been investigated their doctrines for many years, things stated above are not correct or just written to sound very subjective and negative. My church has done so much evil through centuries but I am not responsible for that. People are not perfect but throwing stones on someone like this is just pathetic. Some Mormons and former Mormons have said otherwise, and the article was drafted by someone who was also a religion professor at a Jesuit university for years.
Which parts do you disagree with? I have only lived in Utah for 6 months, but in that short time I have come to realize that Mormons are some of the most psychotic, twisted people on earth.
To be fair, I think all organized religion is B. Absolute, undeniable psychos. And the fact we almost had a Mormon president is scary considering what these freaks believe. Every single ct of life in Utah is controlled and run by these nut jobs, the last thing we need is the entire country controlled by one. Relax people. Number one to survive in this life is to respect one another and to accept that everyone is unique. We are here to be good to one another and make the world a better place.
Can we all just get along? I was raised Mormon. I stopped attending church in my early teens. Peer pressure, reading and listening to different opinions from people. The Bible? There are many interpretations, as with all books.
Religious or not. Just want to say if you really believe this bull crap look at lds. Most other sites about mormons are actually led by anti-mormons who use false resources and also use ex-mormons who have no idea about what is going on in the church as sources as well. Finally 2 is wrong.
If there was at least half a million people living and trading from coast to coast it would be somewhere from Panama to the beginning of Mexico. This is also a considerable fact since there was no mention of any winter back then.
Also stone buildings have been found in Guatamala in the jungles there and many more remain to be uncovered. Bishop Darrel L. I have been asked to forward to you for acknowledgment and handling the enclosed copy of a letter to President Gordon B.
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Hinckley from Ronnie Sparks of your ward. Brother Sparks inquired about the location of the Hill Cumorah mentioned in the Book of Mormon, where the last battle between the Nephites and Lamanites took place.
The Church has long maintained, as attested to by references in the writings of General Authorities, that the Hill Cumorah in western New York state is the same as referenced in the Book of Mormon. The Brethren appreciate your assistance in responding to this inquiry, and asked that you convey to Brother Sparks their commendation for his gospel study.
Freedom of. Cancer would be nice. Disease, maybe one day. Freedom of. Get it! I was wondering if an extensive citation list is available? There are in-text citations, throughout the article; However, some things are left un-cited. I would like to do some deeper research on points touched on in this article, and a complete citation list would be much appreciated.
Pingback: Religion - What Say You? I do not understand the arguments here. Not at all. I am not a huge person of faith and tend to be more scientific requiring proof before I place my faith in something.
All religions have historical discrepancies chiefly due to them being formed hundreds or even thousands of years ago, some even before mankind could write passed along via oral tradition. To me it is very, very clear that Mormonism was founded by a scoundrel. Unlike all the other religions in the world, Mormonism is fairly new and came into existence during a time when people actually could read and write No Oral tradition herewe have documentswhich means we live in a time when we can actually corroborate the evidence using factual documents.
What is great for discerning minds is we actually have documented, first hand, eye-witness accounts converted to sworn written statements from his neighbors, his first wife, early church members, court casesetc.
This recent, easily attainable documentation of a founder of any religion is ucountryconnectionsqatar.comecedented. We are so fortunate. Imagine if this scoundrel lived a thousand years ago. There would be tales of him walking on water and raising people from the dead. Any third grader can read the actual history of Joseph Smith and know that he was a snake oil salesman, a sooth Sayer, a con artist, a drunk and a womanizer. He was a thief, had no honor and roamed the country side looking for people to use.
He lived a very good life feeding his base desires by devising a completely fabricated religion. In the end he found a way through life without having to work and he lived like a king with the women of his church worshiping him. When he died, the greatest gig in the whole world was kept alive by the Elders of the church who also were men of the same type.
What you really had here was a group of pedophiles that got together and devised a system of control to feed their debased desire for 12 year old girls Polygamy and carve out an easy life for themselves. All religions must evolve to survive and prosper.
Mormonism is no exception. As the church grew the doctrines changed and morphed into something more palatable for everyone.
This is the case with Mormonism. The filthy debased usury of hard working people and their 12 year old daughters continues to this day, deep in the basement of this foul religion. Hi So, I would just like to say that you are wrong. SO wrong. If you want more information on who Joseph smith is, than read: Our Heritage, A brief history of the church of Jesus christ of latter day saints.
God Commanded them. If you believe in god then do this: Pray. The Book of mormon is a wonderful book. When people say that the bible is wrong, and we mormons think that, well its because some parts were mixed up. In 2nd Nephi, it has a verse and If you compare it to Isaiah, Nephi loves quoting Isaiah they are different and the one in the book of mormon is the correct.
Who knew?! Why are people so obsessed with the Mormon religion? Just saying. Maybe we are trying to save Mormons from going to hell which is were they are headed believing as they do. So they are headed to hell for responding to the majority of natural disasters just as fast as the Red Cross? They are headed to hell for having Jesus Christ and families as the centerpiece of their church?
They are headed to hell for pushing their children to attend college and serve a mission for their Lord and Savior? They are going to hell for being hypocrites?
Every religion has hypocrites and many people are imperfect. So if the Mormons are going to hell for trying to become better people and serving the community there will be a lot of people in Hell.
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I supposed all pollination was done by Native American hands before bees were introduced to the new world? Books are available about native pollinators if you are interested. The honeybees that farmers cultivate are of European origin. The honeybee was indeed brought over by the early colonists. Only one fossil species is documented from the New World, Apis nearctica, known from a single 14 million-year old specimen from Nevada.
I am a devout Mormon, and yes, many of our beliefs are quite different than other Christian churches. BUT, this article exaggerates a lot of them. Go read Isaiah Martin Harris, a friend of Joseph Smith, went to a professor of ancient languages at Columbia College, and what happened was exactly what Isaiah had predicted.
Not only the doctrine, but also the history of the Church is twisted. For example, Joseph Smith was often in trouble with the authorities, but he never went against any laws. He was only expressing his right to freedom of religion.
He was arrested because Satan was stirring up the hearts of the people against him. And think about it. Who else was often in trouble with the law, even put to death? Jesus Christ himself. Why single out Mormonism as screwball. All religions are! If you base your religion on the Bible, you are uneducated and blind to the reality the Bible portrays.
The Pentateuch, the first 5 books if the Bible, is a summation of vicious religious nonsense. Read it again-you probably never did before-and drop your belief like a hot brick, as I did. All of what I said above is is why I am a Mormon. This is why Mormonism is not faulty or fake religion. It is a religion like any other. I believe in it and place my faith in it, and because of that, you cannot criticize the beliefs, as they are like any other, only larger.
It is just like if you believed that it is going to rain tomorrow. It is a belief that I believe in and that I fully place faith in. I thought not. Now think of what you argued, and recognize the true fault in it. Humility, integrity, thoughtfulness, and kindness are true virtues.
Now take those virtues and and change your thoughts by using them as your foundation, then tell me how Mormonism is a foul, crazy, filthy, screwball, religion.
This article is right on the button. I would like to say the false spirit you feel when reading the Book of Mormon is a Black Magic spirit and can make people a little nutty. Its not the same spirit you would feel reading the Torah or the Bible. We no longer believe in the black skin racism part. That is a huge lie. I hate how people always twist things like polygamy, which mormons no longer practice by the way, into something we do now or we now do wrong. Please stop. We all have religious freedom.
Believe what you believe and stop judging others bc you dont believe in the same thing. How many times, in how many ways, can an omniscient God whose will is locked up in a biblical repository, change his mind without changing himself? I recently had my name removed from the LDS church.
The truth is that growing up, I was taught lots of great values and it has helped me to be a better person, but I realized when I was older, I was being told what to think and what I would think and there was this set life plan laid out for me.
It made me feel very trapped and unhappy. I decided I wanted to be happy, so I left. If we were told and taught about them, it was to say that Joseph Smith was an honorable man and people trying to cause harm were evil because they were persecuting him for his religious beliefs. I was taught that Smith had one wife named Emma, and growing up when I heard people outside the church saying he had many wives, I thought they were just being antimormon and were pissed off that the church excommunicated them.
Then, the church came out with an essay saying it was true that Smith had lots of wives. Why did they teach me that he only had one? The warm, comforting blanket the church was to me, eventually became smothering, and then the whole blanket unraveled. I am trying to move forward though with my life and live it the way I think I was meant to.
It is getting easier. When I considered myself Mormon I would get upset about these exmos, too, at times. While I think it is really unhealthy to not move on and I need to try to better move ona lot of exmos have a really hard time with it because they find out all of these disheartening things about something that was once the biggest deal in their lives. Why did they lie to me!!? The only difference is the effectiveness of the brainwashing about both or either that the average American is susceptible to from childhood.
No religious person who believes in some type of scripture has any platform whatsoever from which to criticize the BOM as being illegitimate. The writers of the Bible were the Joseph Smiths of 2, years ago. After all, as a mormon I should know. Our heavenly father is forgiving and no matter how bad you mess up, if you feel sorry and ask for forgiveness he will grant it.
Many people also say that the LDS church is a cult. People will also tell you that we are not christians, also not true. Rejecting a fact to replace it with a myth, well, you need faith for that to work. Tell Jesus you need a whole new propaganda speech. For starters, did you know that compassion trumps religion every time? Ok, dinner time here. Prophet John Taylor. Prophet Brigham Young. As for polygamy, I thought a angel threatened Joseph Smith with a sword if he did not take other wives, including teenage girls and women who were already married.
Maybe you should get all your facts straight before you post about it. Your sect is not true, and going to your websites is not going to change that fact.
I respect their right to believe as they do. I was taught in the church I am a member of, to use my God given intelligence to make decisions.
I am a Mormon but I have struggled with it in my head for years. I am torn because I love the religion and I love the teachings and the close knit family and social setting it brings are amazing. However the problem I face is that being intellectually honest, the claims from which it sprouts are most likely untrue. Teachings such as polygamy do not sit right me my moral compass either, mainly the way it was handled, in pure secrecy I am at a loss because I love what it brings to the table in modern days but it rests on a very shady history.
Hi Dan. But at some point you have to come to grips with the fact that Mormonism teaches a doctrine that completely changes the essential tenants of Christianity. Even if an angel teaches a doctrine other than that which you have receivedhe is anathema It is clearly closest to Gnosticsm which is soundly condemned by the Apostles.
These are the real deal. Joe Smith was a con-artist perhaps the greatest con-artist in American history. You have to wonder at the gall of Joe Smith, Sidney Rigdon, et. The knew it was a con and so do the Apostles today!
They know the truth. God bless. I now understand where you are coming from. Will try later. Thanks, Dave. Are you serious? You guys actually believe some guy called Joseph read a bunch of metal plates with some brown rocks in a hat without seeing them? Come on, this is the 21st century. Half of you appear to be internally contesting the validity of such a belief system, doubting the feasibility of its origins.
You are no better than the extreme Muslim groups that people are all riled up about. You are probably mostly good people, but i would ask you to question, would you still be a good person if you did not have your ideology?
I personally have faith in your humanism, and would say that yes, you would be good people. Please, for the good of humanity, use your mind. My childhood best friend was a Mormon.
My atheist friends would probably say as did some above that all religion is equally silly. What gets me angry is they look like some of my neighbors as a child in the black neighborhood I lived in.
My sister in laws husband, a ex missionary told me that blacks are still cursed and just received a pardon and his tone was quite rabid. Brainwashed idiot. It is a cult. I was baptized when i was 8. Left when i was in my late teens, due to debating certain doctrines and things i noticed, and not being answered the questions i was asking!!
My parents and siblings had left years before me. Two of my siblings stayed in the church. Dad passed away almost 19yrs ago, and Mum last year. We have just found out that my two siblings have all been to the temple and sealed our parents, 3 siblings, and my mums parents together.
I find it despicable, and totally unforgivable. My gran was a member of The White Order. And my parents were Spiritualists. How can mormons feel they have the right to do this? Cannot get them in life, so take them in death. Pure selfishness, and totally wrong. Lets see, god has had about 25 billion children upon this earth. Say million of those make it to the celestial kingdom. That is 0. So it would take about ten generations or cycles of gods having children and populating their own worlds before there would be more resurrected humans than there are, in reality, particles in the known universe.
A new cycle starts every 10, years or so. So the universe becomes overpopulated in the firstyears. Does god know any of these by name? So god would never have time to get to know his offspring. He could never catch up. This person was really misinformed. We are not racist we do not practice polygamy and we are not a cult. Why people would believe this is harsh. Listen to me I am a mormon and this is not true.
I would ask you would do some research on this before making a choice. Go to Mormon. Also the author said there was geneological and historical mistakes. This is true there are mistakes in the book of mormon. But this is because the book of mormon is a record of journal entries and letters. You have been mislead.
I used to be a devout remember of the Mormon Church just like you. And that like a cult, Mormonism has intentionally kept unfavorable information about their founders, their history and their doctrine away from the public eye and the eye their members to keep membership strong and conversion numbers high.
The church, in an effort to be more transparent, recently released images of the very stone that he used. And yet, It appears that the Church has managed to thrive in spite of its founders, not because of them. This is to the credit of the members themselves and the the credit of modern secular values that embrace equality, free thinking, science, evidence, and reason.
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I understand that as a Mormon you now have a choice to make. Do you investigate these points and see for yourself? It is your call to make, but before you make it, remember that Scientologist and followers of Warren Jeffs are just as certain of there beliefs as you are.
Could it be that you like them are mislead by misinformation and the unsupportable claim that it is better to rely on faith over facts? I think you will discover,like I did, that you are. Good luck on your journey. It is absurd. Just because some mortal claims their belief is the only true one does not make it so.
If you all need a crutch, go buy one. Organized religion is another means to control people- you were given free will so as to avoid being controlled; you were given a brain in order to utilize logic and analysis. The Creator IS and always has been and always will be. It is as absurd as what Ezra did, changing the Sumerian records to fool people into believing the hebrew were not the same as the habiru.
It is nonsense. Be happy that you ARE. Just ran across this article. First, notice the authors do not attack or, horror of horror judge Mormons. They simply state facts about Mormons doctrines. I know.
I was one. If the conclusions suggest Mormons are not Christian, than so be it. Second, did anyone notice how the response by Mormons is not to refute the facts?
Ex-Mormons like me, who allow the facts to lead them to where they goleave Mormonism. The big issue is where to go?
I found that the doctrines of the Christianity of the Bible are not corrupted; the authority of Christ was never lost because believers have the Holy Spirit as a seal; and, Christianity is not a false religion that needs a restoration by a con-artist. God bless. I told to believe in God and in Jesus and everything else will follow through for him. As a severely abused and also sexually abused child, I learned early on in life that you cannot just submit to your surroundings.
I went on my own, to various types of churches, listening and learning from each of them. I learned a number of things. First, every church is led by men. His wants and needs were always somewhere hidden in the sermon and women where always expected to follow whatever was expected of her from a man. Even female ministers follow this doctrine. Secondly, every church visit was like a fashion show, where men and women seemed to dress their best.
This went totally against what I, myself had read in the Bible. Jesus walked for miles in dusty sand. The people who came to hear him, also lived on that land. No one worried about what they looked like.
They were there to hear Jesus. Not that I expected people in church to be smelly and dirty since we do now have access to showers and such, but the very rich-looking clothes went against my sensibilities. I learned that each different church catered to their members. Each church had very different traditions and rules, but in there was a fine line of some sort of unity.
In every trip to every church I went to, I could hear God trying His hardest to be heard by a deaf crowd. I finally decided that these churches filled a need for most of the people, which had very little to do with religion. So, I decided to just worship God and Jesus on my own.
Mormon teenagers are instructed not to date until they are at least 16 years old, and then are encouraged to avoid dating the same person too seriously. Though most Mormon youth follow the "no dating until 16" rule pretty firmly, specific dating rules vary somewhat based on the individual and their family rules. Oct 05, Coauthor: Tony Nugent, Ph.D. This decade has been called, "The Mormon Moment," the time that America's largest home-grown religion finally comes into its own as a part of the Christian tapestry. Even some LDS quirks seem to be turning into positives. Shifting sexual mores have made Mormon polygamy and sacred undergarments a matter more of. Mormon marriage is intended to be eternal, conditioned upon the kept covenants of each participating spouse. God has a perfect plan in place for imperfect people. He offers His grace, power, blessing, Hand on a marriage where couples promise and strive, however imperfectly, to live His laws which bring the greatest happiness and peace, through.
I still have questions, of course, and I do question parts of the Bible myself, but, I am a lot happier and feel God a whole lot more than when I went to church. I guess that I am going to church, but it is my own church and it suits me just fine.
I have also recently done some research into the Muslum religion, where I was astonished to find how very similar the stories are to our Bible. Even though it was a woman who told Mohammed that he was a prophet, women are thought of as having less value than a cow. Somehow, to me, they have twisted their religion and produced a religion of misogynists. I certainly am not perfect as I struggle with this myself. Sometimes I can be the most toxic person ever, but I still believe.
Hi Barb. Your missive is really lovely. Jesus was the poster-child for not being in organized religion. A real rebel. There is great value in finding a Church where the members are just Christians. Yes, they are there. The music, worship, praise. The writer of Hebrews was also against organized religion but he or she said, do not forsake the assembly as some have done.
The reason is that the Church on earth is a reflection of the church in heaven. As a catalyst for discussion, I am grateful for the article. My family heritage in the states begins with the begining of the church. He discovered Bountiful. Another Mormon practice on dating is to avoid getting frequent dates with the same person, especially if you are still in your teenage life.
Because if you do, you will possibly develop a serious relationship at a very young age - which limits the number of people you meet and might probably lead to immorality.
Another essential factor when it comes to dating is that date only those who have high moral standards, and in whose company you can maintain your standards. And of course, always plan dating activities that are inexpensive, safe, positive, and healthy - whether both of you are wealthy or not, strong or delicate, and explorer or idler. Good latter-day saints only go to places where they can maintain their decency, agree?
Photo: churchofjesuschrist. Another Mormon belief about dating is that young men generally take the initiative in asking for and planning dates. So, take a deep breath and relax! You can also read more details about dating on churchofjesuschrist. These are the popular questions all around the internet. So what are the Mormon beliefs about marriage?
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches its members to marry one person at a time, which is monogamy.
For more information, check out this article. For a detailed explanation, check out the video What Mormons Believe: Polygamy. Every member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints must prioritize dating and marriage once we reach the right time - generally, after the missionary service.
But before settling down, we should also be prepared spiritually, emotionally, and financially. We all have the freedom to agree with arranged marriages or not. Nothing, even death, can separate them forever. This is one of the common goals of the latter-day saints, to marry in the temple so that their families yes, parents and their children can be together FOREVER.
But if you want to be sealed with your family eternally, you and your spouse must both be worthy latter-day saints. For a deeper explanation of Mormon beliefs and practices on marriage, check out Gospel Principles, Chapter Eternal Marriage. These things are just a few of the numerous Mormon beliefs and practices on dating and marriage. If you have any questions, please leave a comment and we will respond to you in no time! Your email address will not be published.
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